The Christadelphian Bible Journal
Sep 2004 Volume 2 Number 20

Biblical Teachings of John Thomas,
Compared with Theories of J.J. Andrew.

  1. That contrary to JJ Andrew's teaching, it is knowledge that makes men responsible to the judgment seat of Christ, not association with the blood of Christ through baptism. (John 3:18-19; John 12:48; Mark 16:16; 2Th 1:8; The Apostolic Advocate, 1835, p. 178; Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1861, p. 12-13; Anastasis, p. 41-42; The Revealed Mystery, 1869, #46; The Christadelphian, January 1870, p. 3; The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 226-228; The Christadelphian, March 1868, p. 27.)
  2. That contrary to JJ Andrews' teaching, the Edenic penalty in the garden of Eden is 'dying thou shalt die'. The Hebrew Âmuth te muth means dying thou shalt die, and, accordingly, the penalty threatened was the penalty Adam received: the process of death, not an immediate violent death which was substitutionally carried out on an animal, as JJ Andrew taught. (Elpis Israel, p. 68.)
  3. That contrary to JJ Andrews' teaching, a Divine Covenant is not a mutual agreement. (Jer. 11:3; Deu. 4:13; Psa. 105:8; Gal. 6:7; Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1851, p. 172.)
  4. That contrary to JJ Andrews' teaching, even though we are baptized, we are still physically and federally 'in Adam'. We continue under the 'constitution of sin' so long as we are mortal. (1 Cor. 15:21-23; Rom. 8:10,11; Eureka, Logos ed., vol. 1, p. 30; Elpis Israel, p. 76; Eureka, Logos ed., vol. 3, p. 256; Elpis Israel, 1904 ed., p. 147, 1949 ed., pp. 132-133; Elpis Israel, p. 143.)
  5. That contrary to JJ Andrews' teaching, we are not released from the law of sin and death till the resurrection. (Romans 7:23-25; Romans 7:22; Elpis Israel, p. 137; Eureka, Logos ed., vol.1, pp. 247-249; Elpis Israel, p. 42.)
  6. That contrary to JJ Andrews' teaching, no legal defilement is removed at baptism. That baptism is not a carnal ordinance. That original sin is not removed at baptism (1 Peter 3:21; Catechesis, pp. 6,7; #45; Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1851, p. 149; Eureka, Logos Ed., vol. 2 p. 261; Elpis Israel, p. 129; Elpis Israel, pp. 128-129.)

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